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June 13, 2011, 09:38:05 AM

Should & does Weapon Finesse work on elven thinblade? If the answer is "should" & "doesn't", how could it turn to be 'does'?:)

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June 13, 2011, 09:57:38 AM
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Quote from: william_iii

Should & does Weapon Finesse work on elven thinblade? If the answer is "should" & "doesn't", how could it turn to be 'does'?:)

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Yes & I don't know ;p It should add attack bonus is your DEX is greater than STR. I've never tested that though.


June 13, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
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Sadly, here I got this: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_finesse

"The finessable weapon list includes all standard small and tiny melee weapons, plus the rapier (which is medium). "

"Even though the feat description says 'light weapons', this should not be confused with light weapons in the context of dual-wielding. The finessable weapons are exactly the ones listed above, regardless of the size of the weapon and the size of the wielder (with the noted exception that two-handed weapons cannot be finessed). "

So I think maybe it's "shouldn't" in fact & I'd better give this up ;)


June 13, 2011, 11:11:30 AM
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From 'Races of the Wild':
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Sword, Elven Courtblade: These exotic swords seem impossibly long and thin, tapering to a needlelike point. One edge of the blade is sharpened along its entire length, and the opposite edge is sharpened only for the final quarter near the tip. A courtblade has a basket-shaped hilt (usually made to resemble leaves and vines), a long grip, and a heavy pommel. The weapon is intended for thrusting attacks, but the wielder can slash with it as well.
A character with the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (elven court- blade) feat finds the weapon well suited for quick feints and thrusts. A character can use an elven courtblade in conjunction with the Weapon Finesse feat, applying her Dexterity bonus (if any) to melee attacks she makes with the weapon, though it remains a two-handed weapon and not a light weapon.
Characters proficient with the elven courtblade may treat it as a greatsword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.

Sword, Elven Lightblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a short sword but weighs only as much as a dagger. Dexterous elf fighters and rogues favor it. Its thin, flexible blade slips easily into the seams of armor or between the ribs of a foe. Some elf nobles carry a lightblade—often decorated with intricate filigree and tiny gemstones—as a sign of their station, even if they aren’t proficient in its use.
Characters proficient with the elven lightblade may treat it as a rapier or a short sword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.

Sword, Elven Thinblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a longsword but much lighter. Like the lightblade, it is favored by dexterous elf fighters and rogues. A character can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply his Dexterity modifier instead of his Strength modifier to attack rolls with an elven thinblade.
Characters proficient with the elven thinblade may treat it as a rapier or a longsword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.


June 13, 2011, 12:12:40 PM
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From 'Races of the Wild':
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Sword, Elven Courtblade: These exotic swords seem impossibly long and thin, tapering to a needlelike point. One edge of the blade is sharpened along its entire length, and the opposite edge is sharpened only for the final quarter near the tip. A courtblade has a basket-shaped hilt (usually made to resemble leaves and vines), a long grip, and a heavy pommel. The weapon is intended for thrusting attacks, but the wielder can slash with it as well.
A character with the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (elven court- blade) feat finds the weapon well suited for quick feints and thrusts. A character can use an elven courtblade in conjunction with the Weapon Finesse feat, applying her Dexterity bonus (if any) to melee attacks she makes with the weapon, though it remains a two-handed weapon and not a light weapon.
Characters proficient with the elven courtblade may treat it as a greatsword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.

Sword, Elven Lightblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a short sword but weighs only as much as a dagger. Dexterous elf fighters and rogues favor it. Its thin, flexible blade slips easily into the seams of armor or between the ribs of a foe. Some elf nobles carry a lightblade—often decorated with intricate filigree and tiny gemstones—as a sign of their station, even if they aren’t proficient in its use.
Characters proficient with the elven lightblade may treat it as a rapier or a short sword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.

Sword, Elven Thinblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a longsword but much lighter. Like the lightblade, it is favored by dexterous elf fighters and rogues. A character can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply his Dexterity modifier instead of his Strength modifier to attack rolls with an elven thinblade.
Characters proficient with the elven thinblade may treat it as a rapier or a longsword for the purpose of any of the following feats: Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization.


which means as long as taking Weapon Proficiency(Elven Thinblade), I can choose Weapon Focus or even Epic Weapon Focus on Rapier and IMAGINE it's Thinblade chosen instead :P


June 13, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
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Once again:
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Sword, Elven Thinblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a longsword but much lighter. Like the lightblade, it is favored by dexterous elf fighters and rogues. A character can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply his Dexterity modifier instead of his Strength modifier to attack rolls with an elven thinblade.


Which means that you can use weapon finesse with elven thinblade.

And I've just tested this - it works as intended (as long as you have weapon proficiency (elven thinblade))


June 13, 2011, 02:12:23 PM
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Quote from: xwarren

Once again:
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Sword, Elven Thinblade: This rapierlike exotic weapon is the size of a longsword but much lighter. Like the lightblade, it is favored by dexterous elf fighters and rogues. A character can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply his Dexterity modifier instead of his Strength modifier to attack rolls with an elven thinblade.


Which means that you can use weapon finesse with elven thinblade.

And I've just tested this - it works as intended (as long as you have weapon proficiency (elven thinblade))


GREAT!:D:D:D I mean great xwarren;)